Responding to a George

June 1, 2007

I’d like to respond point by point to a recent post on this site by a guy calling himself “George.” This person recently posted a spirited defense of G.W. Bush, after Avman (rightly) exposed him as a phony and a “Rockefeller Republican.”
This dude’s defense of Dubya runs as follows:

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Bush defense #1- Cutting taxes

Bush didn’t cut taxes. He simply passed them on to future generations. Budget deficit is HUGE. Rather than work to ELIMINATE government agencies, he has increased their size and scope while cutting taxes. The bill will come due one day.

Bush defense #2- Partial-Birth Abortion Ban,

It’s no longer legal to bash a child’s skull in and suck his brains out. But according to the supreme court decision, dismemberment is still acceptable. Now THAT’S what I call progress!

Bush defense #3- No federal funds for embryonic stem cell research
No federal funding for stem cell research is great. He could have cut federal funding to the other 200 or so boondoggles he signed off on. As a libertarian- leaning Republican, I’m more bothered by the federal funding than the stem cell research. So he decided against federal funding for stem cell research. He could have done the same with farm subsidies, welfare entitlements, the department of education, and God knows what else. But he didn’t.

Bush defense #4-Trying to get congress to allow drilling in ANWR – twice

Trying, and failing. As a result, we’re still depending on middle eastern foreign oil, which provides money to terrorists. There is less oil on the market which results in high gas prices, which helped pave the way to Republican losses in ’06, and a Hillary victory in ’08.

Bush defense #5-Tens of millions freed from tyranny in the Middle East,

Since when is it America’s job to “free millions from Tyranny in the middle east?” This business of using American capital and life to “Make the world a better place” is pretty much the same logic used to defend the welfare state. That is taking from the “haves” (that’s America) and giving to the “have nots” (Iraq, Afghinistan, and now Africa for AIDS research). There is NOTHING- NOTHING conservative about spending BILLIONS our monies on liberal “nation building” and “humanitarian” crap.

Bush defense #6: killing terrorists left and right…

The door is wide open for them to come in and try to blow up military bases, as happened recently.

Poster’s sarcastic comment: Yeah, he (Bush) is such a complete and total bastard.

Your words, not ours.

Moreover, this dude takes certain pundits to the woodshed for daring to challenge King George:

This is an AMAZING observation. This guy claims that the “partial birth abortion” ban is a great thing. This ban was made possible (in part) by Justices Roberts and Alito’s nominations. Harriet Myers was a former Al Gore supporter! Yet those who challenged her nomination were slammed as “Harpies” and “back stabbers?”

Unbelievable.

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4 comments
Chaddo
Chaddo

Kendra: I read and I agree.

Kendra
Kendra

Ok, this is coming from a Moderate, so I don't really expect many people to read on past this point. ANYWAY. I really don't think it's America's job to go out and about spreading "liberty," while at the same time destroying entire countries. Yes, Saddam was a bastard and I'm glad he's gone, but honestly. Did everyone forget what happened to Germany after WWII and the split of the country? I'm not saying that half of Iraq is going to rebel (although, in reality, they are) and break off from the mainstream, but if we keep heading in the same direction, we may very well end up in the same predicament. I also think that illegal aliens have absolutely no business in this country and that Bush's idea of amnesty is going to make this country self-destruct. I'm sick of seeing my tax money go to ELL programs in high schools that have a higher rate of failure than it does passing. I work at a country club and most of the grounds crew doesn't speak any English, nor does a majority of the maintenance staff. A lot of people will understand where I'm coming from when I say that is the single most frustrating thing in the world. You're in the United States. Learn the language, especially since I had to take Spanish for two years in high school in order to graduate.

Chaddo
Chaddo

George: Part of our problem is falling into a certain logical fallacy. That is, the "liberal media" hates Bush and "Hollywood" hates Bush, therefore he's conservative. Hooey. The loony left hates ANYBODY with an "R" by their name. He could be a socialist, pro-abortion, anti-war wimp. If he's a Republican, they hate him. Conservatives, by contrast, dislike LIBERALS. They have disdain for liberals whether they be a Republican or a Democrat. George, I saw Ed Rollins, (a REPUBLICAN strategist who worked for Reagan) point out that 18% of Americans think that our country is headed in the right direction. The man was visibly shaken as he admitted this, and he said that he'd never seen this in over 40 YEARS of working in politics. President Bush has responded with open hostility toward the American peoples' objection to his policies. He says illegal aliens will do the jobs that Americans won't do (translation: Americans are LAZY). 85% of the people are against his amnesty plan. Just think about that.

George Berryman
George Berryman

"Bush didn’t cut taxes. He simply passed them on to future generations." Which is funny cause I seem to recall a 1.3 trillion dollar tax cut from '01 to '03. My bad. "It’s no longer legal to bash a child’s skull in and suck his brains out. But according to the supreme court decision, dismemberment is still acceptable. Now THAT’S what I call progress!" Actually... yes, that is progress. What would you call it, a backwards step... ? "No federal funding for stem cell research is great. He could have cut federal funding to the other 200 or so boondoggles he signed off on. As a libertarian- leaning Republican, I’m more bothered by the federal funding than the stem cell research. So he decided against federal funding for stem cell research. He could have done the same with farm subsidies, welfare entitlements, the department of education, and God knows what else. But he didn’t." I didn't like his decision to float the Palestinians $300 million in aid. But I didn't ridiculously demonize the man because of it. I said "Yeah, that one I disagree with." "Trying, and failing. As a result, we’re still depending on middle eastern foreign oil, which provides money to terrorists. There is less oil on the market which results in high gas prices, which helped pave the way to Republican losses in ‘06, and a Hillary victory in ‘08." Whose fault is it that we couldn't get drilling in ANWR through? Honestly you blame our President for that? Not the limp-wristed leadership of Bill Frist in the senate? Or idiots like Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins? Our President can't wake up tomorrow and magically make ANWR drilling and exploration a reality. "Since when is it America’s job to “free millions from Tyranny in the middle east?” This business of using American capital and life to “Make the world a better place” is pretty much the same logic used to defend the welfare state. That is taking from the “haves” (that’s America) and giving to the “have nots” (Iraq, Afghinistan, and now Africa for AIDS research). There is NOTHING- NOTHING conservative about spending BILLIONS our monies on liberal “nation building” and “humanitarian” crap." Spreading Liberty isn't a just a conservative 'thing.' It's an American thing. I'm not fond of nation building either but after 9/11 what were supposed to do? Crush the Taliban and leave immediately to let them or something even worse jump right back into power? It's not enough to beat terrorists and the regimes that hold them up. You have to leave something stable behind or else you're right back where you started from. When we beat the Japanese and the Germans after World War II - what should we have done, leave immediately and let them sort their broken countries out on their own? We'd have been right back to where we were with them twenty or maybe thirty years later had we done that. "The door is wide open for them to come in and try to blow up military bases, as happened recently." And yet we keep busting up terror cells and arresting suspected terrorists, here and abroad. Something's apparently working, we're not being attacked here again. Though I will state it again for what it's worth - I do not agree with our President on immigration. But I'm not going to demonize him over it either. "This is an AMAZING observation. This guy claims that the “partial birth abortion” ban is a great thing. This ban was made possible (in part) by Justices Roberts and Alito’s nominations. Harriet Myers was a *former* Al Gore supporter! Yet those who challenged her nomination were slammed as “Harpies” and “back stabbers?" Did you actually listen to Ingraham or Malkin during that time? I was a regular listener of Laura's show back then and stopped when she launched into her hate-filled screeds against our President. Same with Ann Coulter. It wasn't because they disagreed with the choice of nominee - it was because of the level of venom they were engaging in. It didn't do any of us any damn good and if you think it did you're sorely mistaken. Contrast their behavior to someone like Bill Bennett, who I also listened to at the time and still do when I up that early. He disagreed strongly with the nomination - yet he did so respectfully and with a civil tone. He didn't start selling "Bush is stuck on stupid" hats on his website the way Michelle Malkin did. So yeah - I use the terms "harpies" and "backstabbers" correctly. The Ivy League elitism was thick. Would Harriet Miers (and it is spelled Miers, not Meyers - if you're going to debate about the woman and pretend you know anything about her you should also be able to spell her name) have been my choice? No. Know who else was once an Al Gore supporter? My best friend Chris. He even voted for Gore in 2000, then regretted it months after. And he's pro-life, and is now a conservative. I've got another pro-life friend here in Texas who is a Democrat and Hell she even campaigned for Gore back when she lived in Seattle. And does Bush get no credit at all for getting Justices Roberts and Alito nominated and in despite dealing with a hostile senate judiciary committee? If you're going to completely damn him over one or two issues, then you're going to have to acknowledge things he's done right. Step back for one second and think of how badly groups that are considered 'hostile' by conservatives hate and fear our President. They hate this man even more than they hated Reagan. The press hates him in a way that they haven't hated anyone since Abe Lincoln. He drives the UN nuts. Snooty Europe loathes him. He makes empty drug-addled celebrity brains implode. He gives the ACLU irritable bowel syndrome. But yeah, let's label him 'liberal.' Again I will state, for what it's worth, I don't agree with our President on immigration. But I'm not going to engage in this demonization of the man. I'll leave that to the unhinged left and conservatives who can't act any better and seem more like they're trying to out-do one another on the playground. There, responded to, and that'll be it from me here - though I am flattered that I warranted my very own post. And hey, I responded like a big boy and didn't type in all caps once. Huzzah.

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